Posted on: 07 Apr 2018
Note: This article is meant for intellectuals only
(Scripture of Knowledge of God)
(Uttaraardha Charchaa - Second Half Part Discussion)
7) Aneka vaijnaagnikanaam puurvapaksha prashnaah,
Samaadhiyante taduchitasiddhaantaih.
[The arguments raised by scientists have been answered as given below:-
i) When a miracle is observed, how can you draw the conclusion about unimaginable God from it?
Reply:- When you also observe a miracle, you are also saying that the cause of the miracle is inexplicable or unimaginable. We also say the same. Such unimaginable cause is called by us as unimaginable God. You need not doubt that the cause of the miracle is some unimaginable phenomenon or power and is not the source of unimaginable power to be called as unimaginable God. Any number of unimaginable items result only in one unimaginable item, called as unimaginable God by us. In imaginable items, imaginable phenomenon is different from imaginable power, which is different from imaginable source. Such distinction is not possible in unimaginable domain. Even this domain is unimaginable God only. Hence, you need not argue with us on this point since whatever is concluded by you is also concluded by us, which is that the phenomenon of a genuine miracle is unimaginable.
ii) Knowledge of inference or induction is always doubtful. You are inferring unimaginable God from miracle?
Reply:- When we observe the miracle, the miracle is visible to our eyes (indriyaartha sannikarshah) and this is clear perception. From this miracle, we are drawing the knowledge of the existence of unimaginable mechanism, called as unimaginable God. This knowledge drawn from the perceived miracle is deduction of perception and not induction of inference. Even in the inference, unless you come with proof of contradiction (vyatireka), our correlation (anvaya) is not affected to cause the doubt. Correlation means the existence of effect (smoke) wherever its cause (fire) exists, so that we can extend this to any case and this extension is called as ‘vyaapti’. The contradiction comes on seeing the fog, which is the same smoke. The fog does not lead you to the fire and hence, this is a contradiction (avyaapti due to vyatireka). On seeing smoke coming from hill, it may lead to the actual fire existing on the hill or may not lead to the fire if it is fog. ‘Fog does not lead you to fire’ is already established proof of contradiction. Since, you have come with proved contradiction, both correlation and contradiction have equal probability resulting in doubt (samshaya). You may say that magic looking like miracle is the contradiction. We agree to this and say that the case here is genuine miracle about which you have also drawn the conclusion that its phenomenon is unimaginable. Hence, the observation of miracle is totally perception and not inference. Since perception is your single authority, the statement to say that genuine miracle is unimaginable is common to both of us since you have also drawn the same conclusion. You may say that you will explain the phenomenon by tomorrow. Ok, we welcome it and wish you full success also. But, till tomorrow, atleast till the end of today, you must accept that the phenomenon is unimaginable and we call this phenomenon as unimaginable God. Such acceptance is a tradition of your science also.
iii) The phenomenon and its explanation must be natural as in science.
Reply:- The genuine miracle is natural since you are also seeing with your big eyes clearly existing in nature. Natural means that which is seen in nature or creation or this world. The miracle is natural. The phenomenon of the miracle is beyond the explicable laws of nature and hence, its explanation can’t be done with the help of the natural laws already understood by you. If there is such possibility, you could have explained the miracle. You also agree that such possibility never exists and hence, you also call the phenomenon of the miracle to be beyond nature. If you say that since the explanation is beyond natural laws, it should be rejected due to absence of natural explanation, this is horrible step on your side. This means that if you are unable to explain anything, it should be thrown out! You are fencing yourself in your very limited area. The genuine miracle is seen by the public also. You must explain the phenomenon of the miracle to the public and disprove it as false magic. It is your responsibility. If you escape from your responsibility, you will be rejected by the public. When the scented nectar is flowing from the photos of God before a crowd of devotees, you must prove it as false magic or you must give the mechanism of such phenomenon through the natural laws. A fellow defeated in boxing falling down keeps his hand on the back of the winner sitting on him and says that he has won! Your argument is just like this!
iv) Some of the devotees only say that whenever an item is created by Baba, that item disappeared from some shop and appeared here. Such case is not genuine creation of matter. The law of conservation of energy or matter is maintained.
Reply:- Some of our devotees, who are jealous about the Human Incarnation speak like that. Assuming that what they speak is true, even such disappearance of an item in one place and re-appearance in another place itself is unimaginable. Can such devotees do this miracle so that let an item disappear in one place and re-appear in another place (in their hands)! Whenever Baba created some items by moving His hand, Dr. Suri Bhagavantam, a famous scientist, was thinking in similar way, having faith in law of conservation of energy or matter. One day, he went to Baba with his fellow scientists to see Him for the first time. Then, Baba moved His hand and produced a photo in which Baba along with all those scientists appeared. Baba gave the photo to Dr. Bhagavantam and asked that whether his doubt was cleared! Since, such situation never existed before and such photo was not taken previously, the creation of the photo of the present first time situation removed such doubt of the famous scientist! Several top most scientists have gone to Baba, closely observed the genuine miracles and became strong devotees. Baba always welcomed the examination of His miracles by anybody standing closely. The panel of scientists set by you to examine the genuine miracles is not superior to these top most scientists, who observed Baba for about a long span of 75 years of the life time of Baba (Baba started doing miracles as a boy of 10 years)!
v) How can you extend the concept of unimaginable God beyond the boundary of world?
Reply:- When the genuine miracle has proved the existence of unimaginable item and when the impossibility to reach the boundary of the universe is common to both of us, how can you put this question to Me? If you take Me to the boundary of the universe and show to Me that only imaginable item exists beyond the boundary of world, I will withdraw My statement. The perceptional proof is absent for both of us, but, I can justify that the unimaginable item existing beyond boundary can’t be touched and hence, the boundary is constantly expanding. If imaginable item exists beyond the boundary of universe, it means that the imaginary universe has no boundary since it is infinite. If the imaginable domain only exists as infinite, it means that there is no unimaginable domain. In such case, how do you explain with genuine miracles seen in this world by you also as unimaginable? Your proposal can’t give a meaningful explanation for the constant expansion of universe proposed by science only. Our proposal explains it with a good meaningful theory, which is:- Since nobody can touch the unimaginable God beyond the universe, you can never reach the unimaginable God. In order to make this as possible, the universe is constantly expanding.
vi) Determinism means a necessary link between cause and effect. The previous state of world in the beginning of creation was at random. A single state has several probabilities of different effects. So, the theory of cause and effect is not scientific as proved by quantum mechanics.
Reply:- A single cause can have different probabilities of giving various effects. A single lump of mud can give rise to pot, jug, plate, doll etc. This is diversity of the effect. At the same time, all these effects are as black as the lump of mud. This unavoidable link (black colour) between cause and effect (determinism) stands as the unity in diversity of various effects. Determinism stands well in saying that a living being can never be produced from the lump of mud since inert mud shall produce only inert objects. Randomness or entropy is spontaneous phenomenon of the universe. The initial state is justified to exist so. But, the unimaginable God as intellectual cause being omniscient and omnipotent decreases the entropy so that the whole universe is forced to be bound with a regular design. Such maintenance of universe is done by unimaginable God, called as God Vishnu (the maintainer of world). In case of the absence of God, this universe must have lost regularity in it and should not have been in the present well maintained state and this proves the existence of God!
vii) First, you prove that the existence of unimaginable God independently is true without the help of miracles. Then, if you apply the miracles to such God, it will be a natural explanation.
Reply:- Wonderful! Newton invented law of gravitational force on seeing the apple falling from the tree. If you also say to Newton that he should prove the existence of the law of gravitational force without such observation of examples and then the examples must be applied to the law, which will be scientific natural explanations, how it looks! Observation of an incident only leads to the establishment of a law or concept. Since miracles were observed, the existence of unimaginable God was concluded by humanity. Once upon a time, even angels became proud of their victory in the war over demons and thought that the victory was not due to the grace of God but due to their capacities! Then God appeared and threw a dry blade of grass before them asking the deity of fire to burn it, asking the deity of air to throw it and so on asking other deities to prove their powers. All failed and realized the existence of unimaginable God. Unless the incident of dry blade of grass was created, such realization about the existence of unimaginable God could not have come even to the brains of angels! What to speak about human beings?
(To be continued…)