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Shri Datta Swami

Posted on: 12 Oct 2017

               

All The Pain Was Taken By God When Crucifixion Started

Shri Anil asked: 1) You mentioned that God underwent the suffering in the crucifixion of Jesus. Before crucifixion, Jesus made a prayer. Can You correlate both these?

Swami Replied: There are two components in the human incarnation existing in a single phase, which is the human being-component only in its phase since the God-component being unimaginable is always invisible even to the imagination. In a normal worldly example like eutectic alloy of two metals, we can find the specific atoms of each metal through a powerful microscope since both the components (metals) are invisible to naked eye, but, visible through microscope since both the components are imaginable. This is the reason for the inability of us to give an exact example for the unimaginable God since there is no second unimaginable item available in the imaginable creation.

The human being-component has all its natural properties, which are not interfered in any way by the presence of unimaginable God in human incarnation. This natural property of human being is exhibited when Jesus prayed God that if it is possible, God may avoid the crucifixion since the body is unable to bear the suffering. This statement indicates the natural behaviour of any human being, since such natural behaviour is not affected by the presence of God. Immediately, Jesus said that if crucifixion is the will of God, let it be done. By the second statement, Jesus passed the test of God by indicating that He is prepared to undergo any extent of suffering for the sake of God. All this is the test done by God and its result declared. Later on, when the crucifixion started, all the pain was taken by God so that Jesus remained very calm with full peace and mental balance to say that God shall excuse the criminals since they did it due to ignorance. Even before crucifixion, He Shivered imagining the future agony on cross and this is normal for any human being and also for the human being component in human incarnation. But, He maintained total mental balance on the cross since God has actually taken the entire agony. Like this, both the concepts are correlated.

Let Me give My experience also that falls in this category. One day, I was sitting on Shrisailam Hill and composed spontaneously a song on God Datta, which I was singing. The last line of that song means that I am prepared to give up even My life for the sake of God Datta. Immediately, God Datta appeared (emerging from Me only). God Datta asked Me, "If You are prepared to give up Your life for My sake, jump down from this hill." Immediately, I jumped down from the hill. God Datta caught Me in the middle and made Me sit on the same stone again. Then, God Datta advised Me, "Don't jump like this. Sometimes, I may not catch You. In that case, You will become a paste." This means that the test was not over by My jump and He is still continuing the test! I got 90/100 marks only by My jump from the hill. The advice of God Datta is a test for the rest 10 marks. In the examination system of God Datta, 100/100 is the pass mark! I replied, "If You wish that I shall not jump again like this, don't put a question like this to Me again. If You put this question again, I will jump again." Pleased with My answer, He smiled and that smile indicated the rest 10 marks given to Me declaring Me to have passed His test. Then, He merged in Me again.

God Datta tests not only the devotees in the world, but also the devotee with whom He merged to become the human incarnation. Success of the human being-component in human incarnation can be attributed to the closely merged God Datta controlling the human being-component to proceed always in right direction. Krishna says in the Gita that He takes over the full control of the human being-component whenever He incarnates as human incarnation (prakrutim svaam adhishthaaya...). Hence, the credit of this test shall be given to God only and not to the human being-component. Test is done only to find the attitude, which is not based on the requirement of God. A grandfather presents a packet of biscuits to his grandson. While the grandson is eating a biscuit, the grandfather asks him to give him a bit of that biscuit for eating. If the grandson gives a bit of that biscuit to the grandfather (or even the whole biscuit remembering that the grandfather presented him the packet of biscuits), the pleased grandfather will present him ten packets of biscuits in the future! Hence, the preparedness of Jesus to undergo the suffering of crucifixion for the sake of God is the pass of the test. God is satisfied with the attitude since there is no requirement that is not fulfilled in the case of God. Krishna says in the Gita that there is nothing that is not attained by Him and hence, there is nothing to be attained by Him (naanavaaptamavaaptavyam). Since the human being-component passed the test by expressing the attitude of sacrifice, the satisfied God underwent the suffering of crucifixion of Jesus on the cross.

Shri Karthik asked:

1) One friend asks that scholars say that a Rudraksha bead has miraculous power of giving relief from misery and granting good benefits. Is it true to be believed? He says that one type of bead (panchmukhi) is giving peace and another type (dashamukhi) gives misery. Please answer this.

2) What is the difference between a false vision that is materialized due to previous psychological thinking and a true vision that is entirely different from this?

Swami replied: 1) That scholar giving advertisement for the Rudraksha bead is paid by the business shop selling the Rudraksha beads. The scholar also quotes scripture in this context! Remember, that scripture is not the primary scripture called as the Veda. It is simply a verse in Sanskrit, which can be composed by any normal scholar of Sanskrit language. The verse quoted by the scholar might have been composed by himself or might have been an insertion in the secondary scripture (Puraanas etc.) composed by one of his ancestors, who does not belong to the very ancient age of sages. All this is exploitation of the weakness of innocent devoted public. Any misery is the result of the sin done by you already. That chain of sins will be cancelled only if you realize and do not repeat the sins again in your lifetime. Except this, there is no other way. Even if you worship God, He will give you good fruit separately but will not cancel the fruit of the sin done by you as said in the scripture (avashyamanubhoktavyam...kalpakoti shatairapi). At the maximum, the punishment of the sin may be postponed and you have to pay it with accumulated compound-interest in future time of this birth or in future birth! When the direct worship of God itself is not cancelling the punishment, do you think that a simple bead can cancel the punishment? It is the twisted theory of some selfish priests that worship of God cancels the fruits of sins and will give you the relief from the misery along with new benefits. No punishment of sin will be cancelled by the worship of God and the worship of God may give you good fruit if God is pleased by your true spirit of devotion in the worship. The relief of misery through worship is false and this is propagated by some selfish priests to earn money through the worships. The worships of God may give good benefits provided the performer is doing the worship not as business (aspiring the benefit for the worship), but, as expression of true love, in which aspiration for any fruit in return does not exist. The priest helping such worship in the right direction of true devotion can be considered as the real friend, philosopher and guide.

One type of bead giving peace and another type of bead giving worry is only your psychological impression that was created by the businessmen with the help of advertising priest. Such impression can be removed by this true knowledge. Such impression is wrong knowledge and this answer is true knowledge. Wrong knowledge can be cut by right knowledge only like a diamond is cut by another diamond. In fact, the true knowledge has far higher power than the power of false knowledge.

2) The false vision must be separated from true vision by your analysis only, which should be deep as well as broad. In such analysis, you will find some clue that helps you to differentiate truth from false. Even dreams are of two types:- One type is due to psychological impressions coming from the present state of general consciousness of this life or coming from state of sub-consciousness formed from previous births. Second type is due to visit of God into your dream to give you some advice. You have to differentiate both these types of dreams through sharp analysis and waiting for the results of the dream to happen in the practical life. In both these subjects, sharp analysis and waiting patiently for practical experience are the only paths. Even miracles are of three types:- One type is genuine miracle done by God. Second type is an incident happened based on probability within the influence of natural sequential laws. Third type is magic projected as a miracle to cheat innocent devotees. You have to separate these three types through sharp analysis and the sequential experience. The first type is totally expression of unimaginable power to establish the existence of unimaginable God. The second type is natural and justified. The third type is unnatural injustice, cheating the innocent public. Sometimes, logical analysis may go wrong and error may happen. In such case, the experience proves the fact. I will explain this with the help of a miracle done through Me by God Datta in the case of Shri G. Lakshman. One day, in the night, he phoned Me appreciating a message given by Me, which was received by him in the e-mail. Then, he told Me that he wants to celebrate his pleasure. I thought that he likes to give Me a party! But, he told Me that the celebration means that the divine scent of lotus flowers shall appear so that the celebration also becomes divine. I was shocked by his proposal and said that I have no power to do such miracle whenever he likes. In fact, his intention was to test Me since he heard from several devotees that often the scent of lotus flowers appearing is giving a proof of miracle of God Datta. He wanted to test Me through experience and not through the logical analysis shown by Me in the message. My message is also given by God Datta only. But, there is a chance of Myself being a good scholar in logic, science and Sanskrit to give that wonderful logic. This is to mistake a genuine miracle for the probability of law of natural sequence. Even a genuine miracle may suit to the natural sequence and in such case, genuine miracle also is misunderstood as natural sequence. In My case, the divine logic in the messages is certainly beyond the scope of any human scholar. Immediately, huge lots of scent of lotus flowers started as experienced by him. Throughout his journey to his house, the scent persisted. When he reached house, even his mother asked him about the scent! He phoned Me saying that the scent of lotus flowers is poured on him buckets by buckets and requested that it should be stopped, which is making him not to sleep. It stopped immediately. To treat this as magic, I was not there in Mumbai since I was in Vijayawada. Thinking that he might have been given strong impression by devotees (brainwash) that materialized (as you said), how his mother got that scent from him? I will give another example of the same devotee, which shows a complete truth in practical experience. One day, he phoned Me asking Me to grant a son since his wife is to be operated in that month for rectifying gynecological defect and the operation is not said to be certainly fruitful. Immediately, I told, "Son is granted to you in this month itself. Why to waste money? The operation can be done in the next month if the grace of God Datta does not appear within this month." He postponed the operation to be done in that month. In that month itself, his wife conceived and delivered a beautiful boy in course of time. Is this not a genuine miracle, which can't be attributed to magic or natural sequence? This is the reason for giving the ultimate position to practical experience after primary scripture, secondary scripture, logical analysis and practical experience (Shruti, Smruti, Yukti and Anubhava). The practical experience of a person with defective eyes seeing two moons in the sky may be wrong because such experience is confined to an individual only and not to all. In the above miracles of God Datta, the scent was experienced by his mother also and the boy born is seen by all even today! Hence, such experience, which cannot be rejected by a specific defective individual, shall be taken as the ultimate authority.

In the subject of miracles, two points must be remembered:- 1) The unimaginable God performs unimaginable miracle through a human devotee or human incarnation and the devotee or human being-component shall not take the credit of that miracle to himself and fall like Parashurama. In fact, when I granted the boon of son to the devotee, I shivered for sometime due to the practical difficulty based on gynecological defect. But, I again gained My confidence thinking that the boon was granted by God Datta through Me. I was also sure that Datta knows how to keep up His word given. 2) The atheists will never agree even if the genuine potential of a miracle is infinite! They will always try to convert any genuine miracle to the natural sequence or to the magic and hence, nobody including God can help them! I do not reject the probability of mistaking a natural sequence or magic to be a miracle, but, I feel bad about the pre-fixed rigidity of atheists saying without perfect analysis that a genuine miracle is always absent since God does not exist. Several incarnations of God Datta (as per the language of Hindu religion) or unimaginable God (as per the universal language) perform genuine miracles and this war of devotees of God with atheists will go on continuously as an entertainment for God!

 
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