Shri Datta Swami

Posted on: 06 Feb 2005

     

ROHIT GITA - VI

Swami:

Oh Nikhil! How are you? Are you Happy?

Nikhil:

Swami I am happy by your divine grace on me

Except some little mental disturbances that worried me

 

Swami:

Oh Husband of Devi! Try to enjoy the worry

When worry is inevitable, enjoy it and be wise

Even continued happiness leads to mental worry

Thus happiness and worry must be alternative

If you are worried by the continued happiness

You are worried at the cost of the result of your good effort

Instead of this it is better to get worry at the cost of your sin

Let the sin give some trouble and then you worry out of it

In this way the result of the sin is spent and the not the result of good effort

The loss in your present worry may be compensated in the future

But the time lost in your past worry cannot be compensated

Because the life span of any human being is fixed

Your loss may be compensated by million times in the future

But even one second of your lost time can never be compensated

Therefore, understand this and think about the value of the time

This knowledge of the value of time is called as ‘Kala Janana’

Which means the knowledge of the future that you should know,

Which provides the possibility of the compensation of all the loss

Except the loss of time, therefore, time is the most precious.

You may waste anything that can be again procured in the future,

But never waste the time, which you can never compensate.

 

There are two ways to escape the mental worry in this world

The first way is by obtaining the peace, which is zero

The second way is by achieving the bliss, which is plus

Worry is minus, peace is zero and bliss is plus

To escape minus, either you should be in zero or in plus

 

Bliss can be obtained only from the Lord in this world

Since the Veda says that the Lord alone is bliss “Anando Brahma

The Veda also says that the Lord alone can give you the bliss

Esha Hyeva Anandayati” this is quite logical in fact

The water is alone cool and so it alone can give coolness

Whatever is said in the Vedas, it is always logical

Now the important point is “Where is the Lord?”

The Lord is neither formless nor energetic bodies nor inert statue

Since all these are not giving the knowledge to you as can be seen

The Knowledge and bliss are inseparable homogenous mixture

Both these two are the components present in the single phase

For example, we say that the sunlight is white as well as hot

You cannot isolate the white colour and the heat in the sunlight

If any of these two is present, the other one must co-exist

Sunlight is white and hot simultaneously when experienced

A wall may be white but it is not hot and so it is not sunlight

The red fire may be hot but not white and so it is not sunlight

Therefore, if its is sunlight it must be white and hot simultaneously

If one characteristic is only seen it must not be sunlight

It may be anything other than the sunlight

Similarly, the bliss and the knowledge co-exist simultaneously

If it is Brahman, if one alone is seen, it is not Brahman

The Veda says that Brahman is having these two characteristics simultaneously

If it is Brahman it must give knowledge and bliss simultaneously

Any thing in the world may give you bliss alone, it is not Brahman

Because Brahman is bliss and knowledge simultaneously as per Veda

 

Lakshman:

Swami I have a small doubt here in this context

The bliss is present in a human being, which has some awareness

The awareness of any object is also called as knowledge, may be little

In that case the bliss is always associated with the knowledge

Now the bliss must be treated as Brahman, since it is associated with knowledge

 

Swami:

Bliss cannot exist in a non-living inert object

Definitely bliss must exist in a living being only, which has life energy

Life energy means awareness and that may be the awareness of anything

Awareness of the Lord and to please the Lord is only called as knowledge

Awareness of worldly items cannot be called as the real knowledge

It is only the knowledge of the world, which is not the absolute Truth

The Veda says “Satyam Jnanam” which means that Brahman is true knowledge

True knowledge alone is the greatest of all types of knowledge

The Veda says “Prajnanam Brahma” which means greatest knowledge is Brahman

Knowledge of subjects like mathematics and physics cannot be Prajnanam

When the worldly subjects cannot be Prajnanam in this context

How can you refer mere awareness as Prajnanam?

The inert objects do not have even the basic awareness, as they are non-living

The plants have very mild awareness, which is life energy

Birds and animals have little awareness, which cannot be called as knowledge

The human beings have high awareness, which can be called as knowledge

Knowledge is called as Jnanam, which is the knowledge of this world

Prajnanam which is the knowledge of God, is only with human incarnation

Philosophical preachers may have the knowledge of God,

They have the true knowledge but that is limited knowledge only.

To get the full picture, the knowledge should be true as well as complete

If somebody touches the leg of the elephant and says that

The elephant is like a pillar the knowledge is partially true

Since it is incomplete, it is not giving the total picture of the elephant

The knowledge of the leg is not false because the leg is true

But it is not complete. Therefore, it cannot be useful to understand the elephant

Therefore, the Veda says “Satyam Jnanam Anantam”, which means that

The knowledge Brahman is not only true but also unlimited

Brahman is not only true but also unlimited

Therefore the knowledge of Brahman should be true and unlimited

The word knowledge used here means this unlimited true knowledge.

The word unlimited means complete, because limited knowledge is incomplete

Moreover the word knowledge is never used for mere awareness in the world

We don’t say that an animal or bird has knowledge

If knowledge means simple awareness, then in the world we must have heard

That the animal or bird is having knowledge.

 

Therefore either formless or energetic body or a statue is not giving knowledge

You may derive bliss from these but you are not hearing the knowledge

I can see that you are deriving bliss from these objects, I am satisfied

I accept that you got bliss because I see the bliss in your face

But I have no proof for the knowledge received by you from these objects

Knowledge is transferred by words and not through silence

In the world we are not seeing any teacher teaching through silence

The knowledge requires teacher, student and method of transmission

The method of transmission can never be silence

Silence represents God, no doubt in it, but you should know this fact

Unless you know this fact through words you cannot understand this

The teacher should say that God is beyond word and is indicated by silence

Now if the teacher keeps silent, the student understands

That his silence indicates Brahman, if the teacher does not say this

And goes on keeping silent, the student cannot know that the silence is Brahman

The student will think that the teacher is unable to explain and hence silent

How do you distinguish between these two? Unless you are taught

That silence is Brahman, the silence may represent Brahman

The silence may also represent the complete ignorance of Brahman

I cannot distinguish these two unless I am taught in the beginning itself

That silence is Brahman because it is beyond imagination and words

 

Therefore, knowledge without words is impossible as seen in the world

You can get the knowledge only from the human incarnation

And it should be from the present human incarnation only

Because the past incarnations have gone and cannot speak a word

Even the energetic body that may appear to you and may speak

The vision of the energetic body is only a for a few seconds

It can speak a few words only but not clear the doubts completely

Moreover a few fortunate people who have done long penance can alone get

Such rare opportunity but this concept is not universal and many cannot see it

Therefore this cannot be an authority with reference to entire world

In the case of human incarnation, all can come easily and hear fully

Therefore human incarnation is the only authority in giving knowledge

Everywhere the universal perception should be the basis of authority

In that case science is also satisfied because scientists believe this only

Knowledge should be scientific, and then only it can be systematic

Of course the Lord is above the science, which is the logic in this world

But you are not above the science and your ways must be scientific

You must detect the Lord who is above the science through scientific ways only

Science is the nature and through the natural rules only you can catch the Lord

You cannot catch the Lord directly because you are not above the nature

You are a part of the nature and therefore your ways cannot be supernatural.

When it is impossible to adopt the ways above the nature

How can you catch the Lord who is beyond this nature?

Nature is creation and the Lord is the creator

Creator is beyond the creation as we can see in the world itself

The pot maker is different from the pot and therefore stick to nature

Infact owing to this limitation of yourself, the Lord is coming down

He enters the best part of the nature, which is the human being

The word Brahman means the best; human being is the best in the world

Therefore, human beings is called Brahman within the boundary of the world

Brahman is greater than the greatest and therefore is the ultimate greatest.

When such Brahman enters the world, He will enter the best part only

When the king enters the town, he enters the best house in the town.

He cannot enter a worst hut, which is below his dignity.

Therefore Brahman can never enter any inert object, which is the lowest

Brahman also will not enter trees birds and animals because

They are higher than the inert object but not the highest.

The advaita scholars are mislead at this juncture because

When it is told that the human being is Brahman, they understood

That the human being is the ultimate highest, but it is not so,

This is the reason why the Lord is called Para Brahman

Para Brahman means greater than Brahman that is greater than the human being

You can experience Him through the human incarnation

Thus you’re experiencing Him through nature and everything is setup

 

But the human incarnation may not be available to everybody in the world

This is not because of His non-availability but because of the jealousy and egoism

That cover the two eyes of every human being like the layers obstructing the vision

For such a blind fellow the second way is there, to escape from the worry

The second part is peace, peace also removes the worry and solves the problem

Peace can be obtained by becoming the Self through the self-analysis

Self-analysis means attaining the self through logical discrimination

Self is pure awareness and is beyond the qualities as well as the five elements

The qualities or feelings of mind constitute the inner subtle body

The five elements constitute the outermost gross body

The self is the innermost awareness, which is beyond these two bodies

You have to fix the meaning of the word “I” to this self only

By discrimination you can do this, which is very easy

When you fix yourself in the soul, neither you are gross body

Nor you are the subtle body and therefore you have crossed all worries

The worries of the body and the worries of body-relatives cannot touch you

Since you have lost the feelings, you do not feel at all for the gross body

The link between the soul and the gross body is the subtle body

When you have crossed the subtle body, the link is cut and therefore

You will not at all feel about the gross body and its other external bonds

When your body or your son is worried you do not get the worry

Since you have crossed the gross body, you have crossed the stream of the blood

The blood stream is flowing in the gross body only

You do not feel the blood as your blood since the feeling is lost

Therefore you remain in the pure awareness, which is not linked to the gross body

Since the subtle body, which is the link is also crossed by you.

Some people think that the peace obtained by self-achievement is the bliss

Some people think that no loss is profit, but it is not true

You have achieved the peace within yourself and from your self only

You have not lost the peace, which is your inherent property of your soul

Bliss is obtained from the Lord, which is the external property or profit

Absence of worry is called as happiness but it is not bliss

Bliss is defined as the infinitely, intensive, continuous happiness

The peace is not intense happiness and is not also continuous.

You may achieve the peace by fixing your “I” to the soul

But after sometime the ignorance will drag you down and fix you with gross body

The subtle body arises after sometime and links your “I” to the gross body

Thus the happiness is not continuous and therefore cannot be bliss

But some people stick to the soul and do not link to the gross body

They destroy the subtle body by destroying all the qualities of the self

The water becomes stand still since, all the waves are subsided

This is called as “Manolaya” or permanent destruction of mind

They remain in the soul forever and have continuous happiness

Yet, it cannot be bliss because it is not infinitely intensive

Therefore to think that you have become Brahman by achieving self is not correct

 

But remember, bliss should not be ultimate goal of the spiritual path

Because even bliss is selfish and so cannot please the Lord

If you are pleased, what is the use? The Lord should be pleased by you

Happiness is heaven and achieving the bliss from the Lord is

Above the heaven and doing service for the sake of the bliss of the Lord is

The highest abode which is called as Satyaloka or the Brahmaloka

To give bliss to the Lord you may have to invite lot of mental worries

Such mental worry is different from the old mental worry

The old mental worries was for your body and for the relatives of your body

The present mental worry is for the sake of the Lord and is filled with sacrifice

Therefore the bliss is impure as long as you are aiming it for your self

When the bliss is filtered from the impurity of the selfishness, it is pure bliss

The pure bliss means that you are prepared for any type of mental worry

In the service of the Lord, to please the Lord with bliss.

Hanuman was wounded several times in the war but he felt happy only

Because the wounds were received to please the Lord

Such selfless bliss can alone give the highest place called Brahmaloka

You can get happiness in the heaven but it is not continuous

Since you will be thrown out as soon as result of your good effort ends

If you receive bliss from the Lord, you will go to the three worlds

Which are above heaven and below the Brahmaloka.