- His Holiness Shri Datta Swami
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1. Can we say that the first created human being is 'Datta' or 'Father of Heaven'?
Shri Anil asked:-
Can we say that the first created human being is 'Datta' or 'Father of Heaven' (before the merge of unimaginable God) instead of saying Adam and eve or other equivalent human beings mentioned in other scriptures?
Swami replied:- Datta or Father of heaven is first energetic being and not human being. After merge with unimaginable God, the first energetic being became Father of heaven or Datta. Adam and Eve are the first set of human beings created by God Datta or Father of heaven, who told Adam and Eve not to touch a specific fruit. The Father of heaven tested the human couple for its faith in Him.
2. Can we treat Mulaprakruti as 'Adi parashakti' ?
Shri Anil asked:-
Mulaprakruti is mentioned as first created item even before the creation of 'Datta' or 'Father of Heaven'. Can we treat this Mulaprakruti as 'Adi parashakti' ? In such case Adiparashakti came first even before 'Datta' or 'Father of Heaven'.
Swami replied:- Adiparaashakti is the Mulaprakruti created by unimaginable God as the first item of creation, but, the unimaginable God didn’t merge with Adiparaashakti. He merged only with the first energetic being to become Datta or Father of heaven. Adi=first, Paraa=best and Shakti= power or energy. This word can be used in different items based on its applied meaning.
This concept is only to show that the Father of heaven is beyond gender and also beyond any specific form. This means that the Father of heaven (Datta) appears as Hiranyagarbha or Narayana or Sadashiva or Adiparaashakti or any form of ultimate God of any religion. The unimaginable God is beyond gender and beyond any specific form looking in the form and gender as desired by the devotees. By this, the Father of heaven gets universality of all world religions and all sub-religions in a religion (like various divine forms of sub-religions of which Shakteya is one sub-religion in Hinduism). Shankara brought unity in all the sub-religions like Shaiva, Vaishnava, Shaakteya, Gaanapatya, Skaanda and Saura having Shiva, Vishnu, Adiparaashakti, Ganapati, Skanda and Surya as the main deities in Hinduism. He brought unity in all the divine forms due to presence of same unimaginable God in all those forms. In fact, all these forms appear simultaneously as different forms of the same form, called as the first energetic incarnation, due to the unimaginable power of unimaginable God (Parabrahman) merged with the first energetic incarnation. It is just like the same photo of one form of God looking as different form of God by seeing in a different angle!
If you take Adiparaashakti as energetic being (not merged with unimaginable God), She represents also the creation as product form. If you take her in the causal form, She can be the non-mediated unimaginable God directly or God Datta looking as Divine female form, which is mediated unimaginable God. If you take her in product form, she is the creation. In this way, Vedanta-line speaking about God Datta resulting from Parabrahman (unimaginable God) and the Shakteya-line speaking about Adiparaashakti are not at all different. In both the forms, the same unimaginable God exists. Hence, whenever you use the word Adiparaashakti, you shall be cautious about your intention i.e., whether you like to mean the cause of the creation or the creation (product) itself.
3. What is the meaning of 'nothing of energy' in 'SHRI DATTAGURU BHAGAVAT GITA'?
Shri Anil asked:-
Referring to the following portion in 'SHRI DATTAGURU BHAGAVAT GITA'
['If space is nothing, energy is nothing and hence, matter and awareness must be also nothing since both are modifications of energy only. Such state of nothing of energy exists in the very beginning when unimaginable God alone existed in the absolute state (Paramaarthadashaa).']
What is the meaning of 'nothing of energy' here means. If energy exists in the very beginning when unimaginable God alone existed then contradiction comes. At Your divine feet, Anil
Swami replied:- There is no contradiction if you take the meaning of the word ‘beginning’ , which is in two ways:-
Hence, beginning means either the time in which unimaginable God alone existed before creation of subtle energy or the time in which unimaginable God existed as mediated God or Datta before the creation of further creation. To say in short, first only unimaginable God existed. Then, the unimaginable God created space or subtle energy. Then, the unimaginable God created first energetic being with which He merged and became Datta. Then, Datta created further creation.
‘If energy is nothing’- is hypothetical way of argument and not real statement. Since Einstein said that space is nothing and didn’t treat space as subtle energy (something), we are opposing it by saying that if you say that space is nothing, then the modifications of space like matter and awareness also become nothing, in which case energy, matter and awareness become nothing so that the creation itself becomes nothing. However, this nothing of creation is also possible in the absolute state in which the unimaginable God alone existed. On the other hand, we treat that space is subtle energy, the first creation of God, from which Datta came out and entire world is manifested by Datta using further subtle energy created by Him.
4. Enlighten on Karma and Karma Yoga
Shri Hrushikesh asked:-
1) Mr. Andreas Lechthaler on the face book group Beyond the sense and mind reading on of your discourses on Karma and Karma Yoga asked the following. 22June 2018
[Andreas Lechthaler: But all happens without asking. So I don’t need to analyze its details.
I request you to enlighten us with your words. I prostrate to your feet for all the love you show to us, all the hard work that you put in our spiritual progress. No words can show the gratitude to your concern for us.]
Swami replied:- There are two lines of approach to God in this concept:-
1) Since God gives the boon if we don’t aspire for any fruit in return, we don’t aspire for any fruit in return for our service and sacrifice. In this line, God keeps silent because your aspiration for the fruit is the basis for your lack of aspiration for fruit. You are disappointed for the silence of God after sometime.
2) If you are really not aspiring for any fruit in return, you will continue to serve God without any aspiration of fruit in return. Here, even if God keeps silent, you are not disappointed at all.
5. Question on Enlightenment on Karma and Karma Yoga
Shri Hrushikesh asked:-
Dear Swami, Ms. Iio Magyar from Germany after reading the discourse on the Karma and Karma Yoga on the face group "Satguru" has responded in the following way. She says that she has received this discourse in the right time. I request you to enlighten us. A dust particle in your creation, Hrushikesh
[Ilo Magyar “My dear friend Rushee Var, this is exactly my task NOW! I am Inanna/Jnana Hubert, my husband, is Krishna/Messiah. This is my task, just now. In the end phase: Arjuna, the ordinary What happened in the case of Arjuna? Arjuna refused to fight and get back his kingdom. What is the meaning of this? Arjuna did not want to perform svakaryam (self-centered work). Lord Krishna advised Arjuna to fight the war not for the sake of Svakarma but for the sake of participating in the Lord’s work, which was the destruction of injustice. So Arjuna did not participate in the war as svakaryam (karma), but fully participated in the war as Swami karyam (karma yoga). So far it was good. But there is one important point here. Arjuna had not refused to do his karma (fight the war for selfish desire) due to his devotion for the Lord. Had he left the war due to pure and extreme devotion for the Lord, it would have been good. Had Arjuna left the war due to true detachment from his kingdom (wealth), it would also have been good. But Arjuna refused to fight because of his blind attraction to family bonds. That is why the Lord advised Arjuna to first look upon the war as karma itself. The Lord wanted Arjuna to realize that the war was his duty as a warrior and was in fact beneficial for him even from the selfish point of view. Refusing to fight this war would not only mean a personal loss of kingdom, wealth and power for Arjuna and his family, but would also bring eternal ill fame to him. Arjuna did not have as much love for the Lord as Radha had for the Lord. Hanuman, who was also a warrior, had that much love. Therefore, Hanuman never had such doubts. Arjuna did not consider the war as karma yoga (the work of the Lord); in fact, this thought never even entered his mind. Therefore, the Lord first taught him karma, then taught Bhakti (devotion) through Jnana (knowledge), and then taught jnana yoga (knowledge of God) after the purification of mind through Bhakti. Lord Krishna revealed Himself as God in jnana yoga and finally advised him to participate in the war as the work of God—karma yoga. The essence of the Bhagavad Gita can be told in one sentence: Kill Duryodhana not for the sake of your kingdom, but as a servant participating in God’s mission to destroy injustice
I‘ll have to kill the devil, what I always said, and knew. I am Vach I have ALL avatars included, also Phytia, Delhi oracle, ALL! I was at the very beginning. And it was boring. I created my beloved children. Created Samsara, as well as truth, for they‘ll be able to be godlike, in Nirvana. Enjoying love.”]
Swami replied:- Arjuna was sage ‘Nara’ and Krishna was sage ‘Narayana’ (sage Datta as human incarnation). Sage Nara was greatest devotee of sage Narayana. Sage Nara is equivalent to God Narayana and hence, Krishna told that He is Arjuna (Paandavaanam… Gita). A great devotee is the second address of God as said by Naarada Bhakti Sutra (Tanmayaah…) since the first address of God is incarnation. If the devotee is in climax of devotion, the second becomes first and first becomes second! Such Arjuna is acting in the role of an ordinary human being to which the Gita is told. If you take Arjuna as the role, Krishna told that He is Arjuna in the sense of encouraging an ignorant devotee. If you see the role of Arjuna as an ordinary human being, he is also reluctant to contemporary human incarnation due to ego and jealousy. Hence, Arjuna asked Krishna in the Gita that He was recently born and how He could tell yoga to Sun in the beginning of creation. The ordinary human being believes in the energetic incarnation and never in the human incarnation. He did lot of penance for God Shiva, the energetic incarnation, who appeared as human being (hunter) and Arjuna fought with the hunter. An ordinary human devotee believes God as energetic incarnation but not as human incarnation. Hence, Krishna told that He is God in human body (Manushiim tanum…). Then only, the devotee hears what the human incarnation says. An ordinary human being does not judge the human form of God by His knowledge, but, by miracles only. Hence, cosmic vision was shown by God Krishna. The main theme of the Gita is right knowledge to give right direction to Arjuna. Arjuna has enough devotion to God and enough sacrifice. He sacrificed the kingdom also for the sake of his grandfather by whom he was grown up in the absence of his father. Arjuna came to war to get his justified share of kingdom (wealth) and dropped from the war due to fascination to family bonds. Bond with wealth was a reason for his fight and bond with family was the reason for dropping from the war and this establishes him as an ordinary soul of Pravrutti without Nivrutti. He neither came to fight for God nor left the war for the sake of God. Then, Krishna preached the true spiritual knowledge through the Gita and showed in cosmic vision that He is killing the unjust opposite side telling that He will kill them even if Arjuna is absent. By this, He practically showed that the war is His work and told that even if Arjuna doesn’t fight to kill them, He will kill them. He told that if Arjuna participates in God’s work, he will be uplifted and proved (by giving cosmic vision) that God’s work will be done even if the devotee doesn’t participate in it. All this shows that the need of the hour at any time for the incarnation is to deliver right knowledge that gives right direction. Every time devotion, sacrifice and service to God are already existing, but, in wrong direction. Krishna said that even though He taught this right knowledge in the beginning, it was lost. This means that God comes in human form and gives right knowledge, but, very shortly it is lost due to misinterpretations of selfish people. Again God comes to restore the right knowledge and this results in frequent appearance of human incarnations.
Shri Hrushikesh asked:- Dear Swami, As asked by you, I have shared the Answer with Mr.Raghavendra Rao on Caste system given by you for questions asked by Anil sir. Following is the reply from him after reading.
[Raghavendra Rao: I stuck to the point about varṇa system and you ignored all the evidence and knocked down strawmen.
Now let's talk about your guru's duplicity. He claims to be a paripurna avatar. Where is his evidence for such a bold claim?
Raghavendra Rao: Your guru is not an avatar, period. If he can’t be honest about who he is, then he can’t be trusted to be honest about what our religion is.]
Swami replied:- I accept my defeat to change your concept since it is said that a rigid fellow is stronger than even the mighty king! I never claimed that I am the incarnation of God Dattatreya. My disciples called me so. As per your commandment given to me, I shall inform all my disciples not to call me as the human incarnation of God Datta. Salutations to your rigidity.
Shri Anil Antony asked:- Padanamaskaram Swami; A Muslim devotee ' Saleem Mughal' in Quora forum raised the following points after going through one of your discourse. Kindly give your response.
Now the question is raised here, according to normal peoples in this universe has lot of God/Lord than who we can know who is the real lord from all of them? Should be there some definition of God. Before to go on definition of God I want to give one example first.
[We have one human and one object suppose Table. If someone ask, who is Human and what is the table? Then how we can explain him? Before to give answer of this Question we should have knowledge about main attributes of both.
Human & Table attributes: Human has free will. Table has no free will.
Every human has mother and father. Table has now mother and father.
Human has two legs, two hands, two eys. Etc. Table has legs but no hands, eyes etc. Without food/water human cannot live. Table not required food.
Mean that Human has different shape and different attributes than Table. God/Lord/Bhagwan Attribute according to major religion:
Hinduism, Islam, Christians, Judaism
God is one
Hinduism - Ekkam ivdityam. (upanishad. Chap-6, Section-2, Verse-1)
God is only one without the second
Islam - Qul huwallahu Ahad. (chap – 112, verse – 1 to 4)
Say, he is Allah one and only.
Judaism – (The bible, Deut 6:4)
“Hear, o Israel: The lord our God is one Lord”
God is absolute:
Hinduism - Yo maamjamnandi chavetti lokmaheshwaram, Asammudha samtyershu sarvpapaih pramuchyate, (Bhagavad Gita, Chap-6, verse-3)
Almighty God in the supreme Lord of all the worlds, if one will believe in this fact, his sins will be forgive.
Islam -- Allah hussamad, (Quran)
Allah, the Eternal, absolute.
God Have no father no Mother:
Hinduism -- Na casya kasuj janita na cadhipah.
“Of him there are neither parents nor Lord”
Islam – Lamyalid wa lamyulad.
He begets not, nor is he begotten. (no father no mother)
Judaism – “I, even I, am the lord; and beside me there is no savior.” (bible 43:11)
No one like God:
Islam -- Wa lamyakullahu kufuwan Ahad.
“And there is none like unto him”.
Hinduism --- Na tasya prastima asti (Upanishad chapter 4:19)
There is no Likeness of him
Judaism --- I am God, and there is none else, I am God, and there is none like me”
Hinduism - Yo maamjamnandi chavetti lokmaheshwaram, Asammudha samtyershu sarvpapaih pramuchyate, (Bhagavad Gita, Chap-6, verse-3)
Almighty God in the supreme Lord of all the worlds, if one will believe in this fact, his sins will be forgive.
I can quote many others verses. In all religion God is one.]
Swami replied:- You have given good correlation. God is unimaginable since He is beyond space. He mediates with the medium of awareness and energy to become energetic incarnation, called as Father of heaven or Datta. The Father of heaven enters the human medium of awareness, inert energy and matter to become human incarnation. Due to His unimaginable power, He remains as unimaginable God and remains as energetic and human incarnations simultaneously so that different religions are satisfied. Being unimaginable, no direct definition can be given to the absolute God. As the first energetic incarnation, He can be defined as the creator, ruler and destroyer of the world in the appropriate times.
8. Why is it God did not change the Bible for the better?
Shri Anil Antony asked:-
Mr. Clint Cayson (His original question was: Why is it God did not change the Bible for the better?), in quora forum replied in response to Swami’s knowledge on analyzing every bit of scripture logically before accepting it. He also commented on the parable used by Swami of currency note printed by Reserve bank. Kindly give Your reply.
[Scripture: I understand the value of human intelligence. But, as Christians believed God is an all-knowing, all-knowledgeable, and all-powerful and yet He can’t give direct explanations to his creation? If God knows everything but failed to “enlighten” every human being what is he exactly good for? However, we cannot examine or ask people who “wrote” the scriptures because they are gone. Then, people will just have to rely on their own “analytical” minds to understand the scriptures and most of them got it wrong. Then, I’ll go back to the same question.
Reserve Bank: The argument is sensitively close. Here’s what I understand about this. Correct me if I’m wrong. Banks and Banknotes exist. Businesses have been using this for years and they are testable to be valuable and there are undervalued notes as well. But they exist because people made them. We can’t test god’s genuine self, we can’t demonstrate god’s existence, and we can’t even ask his/her gender. But, to be honest. There is this thought that a false equivalency is at play in here.]
Swami replied:- As you said, the omnipotent God can eliminate the people adulterating the scripture by directly appearing to human beings. He is doing the same by appearing as human incarnation. People are adulterating the scripture with some selfish motives. It is the responsibility of the human being to analyze the scripture and find out the illogical and unjust portions, which are not said by God. God has given very sharp intelligence to the human beings. If the intelligence is not used, it will corrode due to lack of work. God does not want us to follow Him like inert robots because certain insertions are introduced in the scripture in His name. God allowed the insertions so that we will use our intelligence and analyze to eliminate those insertions. Even the Veda says that we shall analyze the Vedic statements before coming to conclusions. Such exercise of intelligence on the subject gives perfect satisfaction in believing the truth. Arjuna got confirmation that Krishna is God through cosmic vision and was fully ready to do whatever Krishna says. Still, at the end of the Gita, Krishna said that Arjuna must use his intelligence and analyze the entire Gita before following it.
9. Are atheistic countries more disciplined and flourished than that of theistic countries?
Shri Anil Antony asked:-
An atheist quoted part of the Swami's divine message on Quora forum and given arguments as given below. Kindly give Your replies to him. Mainly he say that there are atheistic countries which are more disciplined and flourished than that of theistic countries.
[Quote from Swami's discourse: Social justice cannot be maintained if the existence of God is not accepted.
Scott Berry: That’s a nice assertion you’ve got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it — like looking at countries with high rates of atheism and low rates and comparing the rates of social justice.
Quote from Swami's discourse: Atheist, claiming self-discipline even without concept of God, is only example of just hypocrisy, hypocrisy only. If there is an opportunity to escape the legal punishment, atheists are the first to do sin since control other than human law does not exist at all in their view. Once the existence of God is established, Nivrutti stands from that point itself. Hence, the medicine is only Nivrutti (plus sign) and Pravrutti is the central neutral food (zero sign). The wrong knowledge of atheism is like poison (negative sign). You must note that both medicine and poison are chemicals only and look alike. Atheism is only creation of opportunity to do sin in a talented way to escape legal punishments in the world. Therefore, the job of the propagator of spiritual knowledge starts only with the introduction of the concept of existence of unimaginable God to punish any sin.
Scott Berry: “I don’t want to look at social justice rates at countries in the real world. Let’s talk about something else.” You had indicated that social justice can’t be maintained without belief in God. I noted that real-world data doesn’t indicate that this is true. So now you want to talk about non-real-world theory that you think sounds reasonable, but, again, isn’t borne out by what we see in the real world.
What I did say, or have implied:
1. In the past, when people have made statements that something was supernaturally caused, they’ve been wrong over and over.
2. I don’t see any good reason to believe that things are supernatural this time around without good evidence.
3. I haven’t seen any good evidence, just assertion.
4. Your original point, that you can’t have social justice without accepting God, is clearly wrong.
Quote from Swami's discourse:: In developing the children to lead justified life in future, the concept of God and spiritual knowledge is the basic foundation.
Scott Berry: You can have that as your foundation, but it leads you to incorrect conclusions. So you end up with people who say that it’s very important that you not work on Saturday, because it’s a sin. Other people think that’s silly: it’s Sunday that you can’t work on, because that’s a sin. And you might think both of them are silly, but their basis for calling something a sin is just as valid as your own. But if you instead have an actual real-world basis to your morality, like “You wouldn’t like that if someone did it to you, so don’t do it to them,” it works out better for all concerned.
Quote from Swami's discourse: If one can escape the punishment here by cheating law of court, what is the harm if ethics are violated?
Scott Berry: Trying to imply that atheists would be evil if they thought they could get away with it is offensive and flies in the face of what we see in the real world.
Quote from Swami's discourse: If unimaginable God, unimaginable hell and unimaginable procedure of punishment from God are absent, there is no fear at all to do any sin provided one can escape punishment by cheating courts here
Scott Berry: You’re selling yourself short, and failing to understand religions more generally. In Christianity, for instance, it’s a pretty mainstream view that if you believe in Jesus as a savior, all your sins will be forgiven. Why don’t you go start a thread on Christianity saying how worried you are that if they don’t think that they’ll be punished for their sins, they can’t be moral?]
Swami replied:- Believing in the existence of God doesn’t mean that you have to believe everything told in the scripture without analysis. There is always possibility of pollution of scripture. Work on Saturday need not be taken as the word of God. I am stressing on the basic point of existence of unimaginable God, who will punish a sinner in unimaginable ways even if he escapes the Law here. If this fear doesn’t exist, naturally, the question comes to the mind of anybody that why shall not I do the sin and enjoy here if I can escape the punishment here through tricks or bribe. You may be an honest person in not doing the sin even without the concept of God. But, you can’t promise that everybody will be like you. Moreover, even the theist gets the above question in his mind and will be provoked to do the sin. I don’t find any loss if the sin is done and if you escape the punishment here, in case God doesn’t exist. After all, what is the loss in such choice of accepting God? You told that atheistic countries are more disciplined. Such statistics is very difficult for analysis of precision. External discipline may not indicate internal peace also. Somebody may be a secret sinner suffering secretly appearing disciplined externally. However, if such imaginary country exists without sin in spite of no belief in God, such country must be appreciated. In such case, let the people not bother about God and God will also not equally bother about such country. God is not fond of projecting Himself for the sake of fame like a devilish human being. All His efforts are only to control the sin and see peace maintained in the society and if such aim is achieved without His efforts, He will be very happy with such country. But, when there is more possibility for a thing to happen, there is more chance for that thing to happen. When there is less possibility for a thing to happen, there is less chance for that thing to happen. This is universal law and you can’t play with this concept like playing with football to this and that side as you like. Moreover, the concept of unimaginable God is proven by genuine miracles shown by human incarnations in this world. You are closing your eyes and drinking the milk thinking that nobody is seeing you! You can’t play with such universal concept in individual level, which will end in chaos of this world.
It is not correct to say that God will cancel the sins if somebody worships Him. The result of worship expected by Him is reformation of the soul, which is not to repeat the sin practically. Without reformation, never the pending sin gets cancelled. Devotion to God may help in the earlier achievement of reformation, but not cancelation of sins directly by devotion. We never said that the world is unreal in view of the soul. It is only unreal to the absolute unimaginable God. It becomes real even to the unimaginable God when He is mediated. Hence, speaking about non-reality of the world in our view is wrong and irrelevant.
10. How to get direction in my life?
Shri Anil Asked:-
A person want direction in his life. His query is given below:
[Dear Friends I am once gain posting almost similar topic which I posted earlier. I changed my job and job location from Mumbai to New Delhi and in regret of that decision I went into depression. In spite of all attempt I am unable to stop regretting which may kill me. My family will suffer. They are already suffering as I am almost in sad mood all the time. Due to this I am not able to adjust in new job and new location. Regretting is my general habit which have come in vikral roop now ( big way now). I am unable to understand what should I do? Small Small things bothers me a lot. Mumbai has good climate but Delhi is very hot and very cold this also bothers me. It i will continue this way I may become mad. All of you are requested to guide me what to do. pl. don't get annoyed with this post again. By Sanjay Kumar on speakingtree.in]
Swami replied:- First, you must stop your tension realizing that tension will not only be useless in solving the problem, but also is harmful since it removes your energy that is required in the effort to solve your problem. This advice was given by Lakshmana to Rama, who was under tension when Sita was stolen by Ravana. Lakshmana is the incarnation of Adishesha, whose another incarnation is Patanjali, the author of Yoga dealing with control of mind. Hence, this advice is very much valid and shall be accepted like the first-aid-box. The permanent solution is always that you should have strong faith in God and improve your devotion to God so that He will help you in the solution of the problem.
11. Is God continuously creating new parts of universe?
Shri Anil asked:-
In "GOPIKAA GIITIKAAVALII”, You mentioned the following: "Primordial power is called as Aadishakti or the first created subtle energy or Muula Prakruti that transformed into this entire creation." "Parabrahman or unimaginable God merged with Datta, the first energetic incarnation." This means that first created subtle energy is Aadishakti, then how It is different from Datta the first energetic incarnation? (i.e., in Datta already Aadishakti exits?)
[In bible newtestament, John Chapter 1: 1-5 following is given:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was with God in the beginning.
3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.
5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Can there be any co-relation between the above bible verses, with first energetic incarnation (Datta) /primordial power (if at all they can be co-related)? Kindly enlighten us.]
Swami replied:- You may have some cash with you and there may be some cash in the bank. Does this mean that both these amounts of cash shall be one and the same and does this mean that yourself and bank are one and the same? The energy of the body of the first incarnation is only a part of cosmic energy and it is the same as the cosmic energy in qualitative sense and not in quantitative sense. The unimaginable God present in the first energetic incarnation created further cosmic energy, which is qualitatively the same as that of the energetic body of Datta, but, different in quantitative sense. The quantity of energy of the energetic body of Datta is very less compared to the quantity of cosmic energy. But, the little energy of the energetic body of Datta is omnipotent since the unimaginable God merged with Datta. Adishakti is the entire cosmic energy, but, the Gopika is created by the same unimaginable God representing this entire cosmic energy. Every human being is a mini-representative model of Adishakti only like Gopika since the body and the soul are modification of the cosmic energy only. The energetic body of Datta is having relative awareness (created by the modification of inert energy) with which the unimaginable awareness or unimaginable God is merged. The awareness in the body of representative model of Adishakti (Gopika or any human being) is also relative without unimaginable awareness, which is the soul. The difference between Gopika and ordinary soul is that Gopika is the real devotee of God and has the full grace of God on her. Such a real devotee of God becomes the master of God and hence, is praised as the divine Adishakti. The explanation of your statements is given below:-
1) The God referred here is the first energetic incarnation through which the unimaginable God created the world and hence, the world is associated with Him. The world is made of inert energy and the body of God is also made of inert energy and hence, God (in the sense of same energy of His body) is the same world, which is the inert energy.
2) He (the unimaginable God) was with the first energetic incarnation in the beginning of creation of the world.
3) The creator referred here is the first energetic incarnation of the unimaginable God, which is totally identified with the unimaginable God due to His total merge. Such mediated God is the absolute creator, ruler and ultimate destroyer of the world.
4) This light refers to the awareness that exists in the mankind.
5) The darkness means the inert world in which the light like awareness (soul) shines being the top most item of creation called as Paraaprakruti. The inert objects are used in a limited way by the awareness having freedom. This awareness is also under the control of God only and to prove this, the awareness is unable to control the entire inert world since the entire inert world is controlled by God only. The above light can be also taken as the unimaginable God (which is the unimaginable awareness merged with the relative awareness of a devoted soul in incarnation) present in human incarnation like Jesus, who controlled all the portions of inert world, which can’t be controlled by ordinary soul. Krishna is such human incarnation like Jesus.
6) Referring the following part of Your divine knowledge;
["Expansion of universe doesn’t mean expansion of the same universe already existing, in which case the density of the universe or space gets diminished leading to certain problems, which are not experienced by us. Expansion means addition of new parts of universe created by God so that the density of the already existing universe is not disturbed. All the items mentioned by you like merge of galaxies, existence of dark energy are the items of already existing universe and have no participation in expansion of universe."]
Is it mean that God is continuously creating new parts of universe to keep density of already existing universe which is constantly expanding?
Swami replied:- The expansion of universe is said in the sense of our inability to reach the boundary of the universe so that we can’t touch the unimaginable God, who is beyond our imagination. God has already created such huge universe so that we can never touch the boundary of the universe. The expansion of universe taking place constantly in the view of continuous creation of cosmic energy is a hypothetical situation of the concept in which we are assumed reaching the boundary of universe and God is creating further cosmic energy so that the universe is constantly expanding to make us unable to reach its boundary. This constant creation is said in such hypothetical situation so that the density of the present universe is maintained and the problem of stretching the distance between items is avoided. The universe is infinite in the sense of the capability of the knowledge of the soul to know its boundary, but, in view of God, the boundary is already known to Him since He is omniscient. If science says that the universe is expanding even in the real situation by creating cosmic energy (to avoid the above defects in expansion of existing universe itself), we are not bothered about this concept, but, we can say that the universe is expanding without the purpose as mentioned above (Purpose is the expansion of universe if the human being is ready to touch the boundary of the universe.).
Shri Hrushikesh asked: 1) Dear Swami, Mr.Jflabg from after reading the discourse on the Karma and Karma Yoga on the face group "Satguru" has asked the following question. {Jflagb: Why Christianity and Islam never agree on Vedas whereas Sanatana Dharma agrees with all scriptures from every religion?}
Swami replied:- Even in Hinduism, there are mad conservatives and such conservatives exist in every religion. The percentage of conservatives may vary from one religion to the other. Christians in USA have appreciated Swami Vivekananda and several Muslims appreciated Shirdi Sai Baba. Every religion must understand that the basic spiritual knowledge is one and the same. Certain religious customs and cultural practices may differ from one religion existing in one country to the other religion existing in another country. These differences are external only and the internal essence is the spiritual knowledge, which is the same in every religion. If a person belonging to one religion scolds another religion, such person shall understand that he is indirectly scolding the heart of his own religion. When there is only one earth with one humanity, how can there be several Gods? Each religion says that its God alone created this earth with humanity. Unfortunately, there are no several earths having different humanities. There is only one earth with one humanity. Hence, the logical conclusion is that there is only one God in different forms and names due to different religions. The same actor may appear in different roles, but, the basic actor is one and the same. Similarly, same God exists in different roles with different forms and cultures in all religions. Similarly, same subject of spiritual knowledge exists in different languages as different scriptures. The spiritual knowledge is one and the same. If you crossover language, name and form, you can certainly find the divine unity in all religions. This is very important step to bring peace in this world and all of us shall try for it sincerely.
Shri Hrushikesh asked:
1) Dear Swami, Mr. Robert Holt has objected on the face book group Group “nondual screen” after reading your discourse on Family bonds.
[Robert Holt: “No next birth as there is anyone to have it. No God interviewing anyone for there is no one. Upon realization of no self there can be permanent peace. Not understanding this can lead to permanent misery. Except the one experiencing the so called misery is not real so neither is the misery. Only the real is real and the real is nothing so nothing is permanent because nothing ever happened.
Following is the Discourse given by you after reading this Mr. Robert Holt has commented.
Swami: Family bonds are temporary since they are limited only to the present human birth. That which is temporary is always unreal. The temporary bonds neither existed in the previous birth nor will they exist in the future birth. Anything that did not exist before and will not exist later, is indeed temporary and such a thing does not exist (in reality) during the present. Such a thing is said to be totally unreal. For example, the bond (relationship) between two actors in a drama neither exists before the drama nor exists after the drama and therefore, does not exist even during the drama. That which is real is always permanent; existing in the past, present and future. For example, the employer-employee relationship between the producer of the drama and the actors is always real during the drama, before the drama and after the drama.
Thus the bond with God, who is the Producer of this world, is always permanent and real. This logical analysis brings about a permanent detachment and a realization that remains alive forever. Therefore such analytical knowledge, which is very clear and satisfies the intellect, maintains the detachment forever. Deep analytical knowledge of the scriptures is required for all westerners and for all the Indians who are being exploited by tradition and the misinterpretations of some selfish preachers.
The body is like a seat in the train and you, the soul, are the passenger. The family members are like just bench-mates in the same train. For the comfort of yourself and your bench-mates, if you trouble other passengers in the train, it is corruption. Life is just a matter of a short one-hour train journey. Your bench-mates will get down at their respective destinations and will not remember you thereafter. Even you will have to leave your seat and move on.
After death, you have to leave your family members, who will not recognize you in their next birth. After getting down from the train of this life, you have to face the interview with God. There he will decide if you are to be granted permanent happiness or permanent misery. Therefore, you must concentrate on the preparation for this grand interview even during your journey through this life. Do not worry about the comforts of your own seat and that of your bench-mates. You will have to leave your own seats and all the bench-mates behind anyway. The bonds with your bench-mates (family members) are temporary and unreal. Shankara says that whatever is temporary must be unreal. The bond, which did not exist before and will not exist in future, does not exist even in the present time. Such spiritual realization is a must for getting a permanent control over corruption.
I request you to enlighten us with your sweet words.
A dust particle in creation, Hrushikesh]
Swami replied:- The language in which your opinion is expressed is totally obscure. However, I tried to understand something by reading several times. What I followed is represented below:- There is no rebirth. There is no God and no soul. Someone exists, who experiences misery. Nothing is real and permanent.
Regarding rebirth, there are several cases reported, which are proved as genuine in the entire world. You must go through such report. You say that nothing is real and at the same time, you say that someone exists, who experiences misery. This is self-contradiction. Do you want to say that everything is unreal just like the Maadhyamika branch of Nagarjuna in Buddhism? In such case, Shankara asked for the necessity of existence of soul that experiences this world as unreal. If the soul is also unreal, there is no basis for experiencing the unreal nature of the world. If the unreal nature of the world is not experienced by the existing soul, how can you say that the unreality exists at all? I don’t know whether you mean this or not.
Regarding the 50:50 probability ratio of this atheism and spiritual knowledge and regarding 0:100 probability ratio due to the perception-proof of miracles supporting spiritual knowledge, I have already given answer, which is presented below. If you like, you may read it.
14. Reply to a devotee's question
Shri Hrushikesh asked:
2) Mr. Jossy Thomman has commented on the face book group Sanathana Dharma each one teach one for the answer given by you to the question ” When a devotee approaches God for help and if the sheet of deeds of that devotee does not allow the help, what is the result?
[Mr. Jossy Thomman: You are back to your unconscious conditioned reaction. You get caught in the stupid traditional mind that has created superstition and ideas, and you go on repeating like a parrot . There is no deeper understanding of Vedas an Upanishad that never mentioned a God or I consciousness in the first place. In Upanishad , and Vedas they only talked about aliveness ,and conscious awareness . They were never afraid of death and death is their one and only understanding. They have understood there is no aliveness without dying every moment and movement. All your ideas comes from Hinduism ,out of fear of death that started the idea of God and, devotee and idea has created that there is a God sitting up above judging every action of every Tom, Dick and Harry and idea comes only through salvation . There begins the mental preyer, rituals and worship. You have lost (Dharma ) responsibility by depending on your unconscious movement of chattering mind ,and lost the stillness and silence of the crystal clear clarity of the soul. So your action or karma become the idea of dependency of a God that is go on creating the bondage of karma or bad karma. When your dharma or responsibility become the reaction of bad karma that is how the pendulum and vicious circle of ego the I consciousness strengthen and crystallised in every single Hindus without realising the prison they were creating themselves. So my friend be a dumb cattle driven to the slaughter house of death, or have the courage and guts to see the truth and false. Even if you can’t, teach and encourage your children to discover the truth that is already covered in the heart of every human beings. Somehow we have to break the chain of karmic reactions.
I request you to enlighten us with your sweet words.
Dust particle in your creation, Hrushikesh]
Swami replied:- The problem is not about the inevitable death, but, about the second part of cinema after death. Death is just momentary. I have not seen this second part before death since it comes only after death, if at all, it exists. You have also not shown to Me about the absence of this second part after death since you can’t show Me the situation after death while I am alive. We are not sure about the second part after death, while we are alive in this life. There is 50:50 probability for your philosophy and the philosophy of all religions (not Hinduism alone). Every religion speaks about God and the second part after death. If this second part after death is only a poetry of some people, such philosophy would not have flourished from so many generations. Apart from this theoretical invention, the practical part of its proof is very much available in terms of miracles of God appearing in this world. The souls, who performed miracles, are telling clearly about God. The performer of unimaginable miracle can alone be the authority about the existence of unimaginable God. Genuine miracles are observed and are also experienced by a very large majority of humanity. You can’t simply do away with genuine miracles experienced by this vast majority of human beings, just by calling it as magic. This is the reason why the followers of atheism are always in extreme minority since the beginning of this creation.
Even in the absence of miracles, the ratio of your philosophy to spiritual knowledge is 50:50 because there is no perception-proof on both sides. In such case, we have to take the side of lesser risk. Believing the spiritual knowledge, if we live and after death even though the spiritual knowledge is false, there is no damage to us. If we follow your philosophy and if the spiritual knowledge is true, we are terribly damaged! Hence, it is better to follow the spiritual knowledge than your philosophy even on equating both due to absence of proof.
Absence of proof as said above is only an assumption. Actually, there is hundred percent proof for the spiritual knowledge in the form of genuine miracles. You don’t have such perception-proof for your philosophy to prove that whatever is told by the spiritual knowledge is wrong. What I mean by this is— you can’t take me all around the space till its boundary to show me that hell and heaven are absent and also you can’t take me after death to show that whatever is told by spiritual knowledge is false. In this light of situation, the ratio of spiritual knowledge to your philosophy becomes 100:0 since theory with practical proof is perfect truth as per science also.
Don’t worry that all the theists are believing in God with full faith in their real heart. Majority of theists believes God and spiritual knowledge based on above probability ratio and miracles seen and experienced in their lives on praying God. A true theist, still, exists on this earth whose faith on God doesn’t depend on the proof of miracles.
15. How does God react to souls?
Shri P V N M Sharma asked:- Once You said that Sureshvara, disciple of Shankara was unable to see God in the temple due to curtain put before God. Then, he said that God’s fate is in his hands when atheists argue that God doesn’t exist. Immediately, the curtain fell down. Does this mean that even God feared for Sureshvara?
Swami replied:- It is true that when he entered the temple of Jagannaatha in Puri, curtain was drawn before the statue for offering food to God. Then, Sureshvara told God “You have become proud due to wealth (since He is the husband of Goddess Lakshmi, the deity of wealth). When Buddhists (atheists) come and argue that God doesn’t exist, I argue to establish Your existence and hence, Your fate is in my hands (Eishvaryamadamattosi, maam na jaanaasi durmate!, upasthiteshu Bauddheshu, madadhiinaa gatistava)”.
There are two points here to be answered:- i) why he said like this, threatening God?—The answer is that he, called as Mandanamishra, was an atheist following Purvamiimaamsaa previously from a long time before he met Shankara and got defeated to become theist. Even though he has become theist, the long standing past influence of atheism in his mind (samskaara) in a hidden way, influenced him to talk like this. We shall not criticise God even in our dream. Such state comes only when we spend a lot of time in spiritual knowledge, based on the existence of God having all merits only without a trace of defect. ii) Why God dropped the curtain, which looks that as if God feared for Sureshvara like a human being, fearing for his advocate arguing his case in the court? It is not so. You see God as matured wise Father and Sureshvara as a small child talking some nonsense due to foolish ego and its father is entertained by acting as if following the child sincerely! If God opposes and punishes this child immediately, the child will not realise its mistake due to arrogance. When God accepts our foolish remark and appears to fear for us, we will immediately doubt whether the omnipotent God is acting like that so that we will get a doubt on our own remark and start analysing our mistake. This is the way of preaching done by a wise preacher. God always reacts in natural way without showing His power in any way so that the soul gets reformed in a natural way only. Reformation in natural way is always permanent. Reformation through forced punishments in unnatural way is always temporary. This is the reason why we do sins again in this birth even though we have just come to this birth after passing a long time through the forced punishments in hell.
Shri P V N M Sharma asked: Some devoted friends are telling me that Swami should answer some recent pungent videos in which strong slogans like ‘God of our religion is only the God’ are heard.
Swami replied: This creation is created for the entertainment of God without any violation of justified rationalism. A drama or cinema contains all nine modes of entertainment (Navarasas) in which confusion creating tension (Bibhatsa) is one. The justified rationalism of this is that such people giving these slogans act as the examiners of the devotees having faith in Universal Religion. Similarly, atheists act as examiners of the faith of theists. In the entertainment of God, justice is always maintained. Only in human beings, there are some sadists whose entertainment lacks justice. Your pain to such slogans indicates your pass in the examination that pleases God.
17. Is God re-entered Jesus after His death on the cross? Did Jesus really die on cross?
Shri Anil aked: Padanamaskaram Swami, In the recent message You mentioned that God left Jesus during His death on the cross. However somewhere else in Your knowledge it was mentioned that Jesus walked out to India and lived in Kashmir till His death. Is God re-entered Jesus after His death on the cross? Did Jesus really die on cross? During suffering on the cross God component also suffered?
Swami replied: Jesus Himself asked God “Why did you leave Me?” This means God must have left so that Jesus alone suffers for the sake of God’s work. Generally, devotees love God to get bliss from Him. This is not the true love to God. The true love of devotee to God is due to the climax of attraction towards wonderful personality of God. For the sake of selfish happiness if God is loved as in the case of worldly bonds (since the Veda says that any soul loves another soul for selfish happiness only) it is not true love. The true love will not be affected in any way even if extreme suffering comes in the service of God. The human being component was tested in the crucifixion. Jesus never repented on the cross for personal suffering. God entered him again so that Jesus again became the human incarnation after passing the test.
18. Question on Entry of energetic from of Datta dissolving in You at Sri Sailam.
Shri Anil aked: Padanamaskaram Swami, when You were inside the womb of Your mother, God entered in You. You also mentioned about entry of energetic from of Datta dissolving in You at Sri Sailam. How to correlate both of these incidents.
Swami replied: Entry, leaving and re-entry are explained in the above case. Since God is unimaginable, He can leave the human being component even without actual leaving. Entry, leaving and re-entry have to be spoken if God is imaginable item bound by worldly logic. When there is a demand of the situation, God exists in the human being-component and this is sufficient for us for all practical purposes. Entry, re-entry etc., do not matter much when the human incarnation maintains the existence of God on requirement.
In the olden days, I used to say that God Datta enters Me whenever I preach the spiritual knowledge. This means that God Datta existed in Me whenever the occasion demanded. There is no harm in this way. We say that a person X lives in a specific house permanently. Does it mean that X lives in that house throughout 24 hrs of the day? X may be leaving that house for some time now and then to go to market. Due to this, you will not say that the specific house is not the permanent address of X. Similarly, the human incarnation is the permanent address of God even though God leaves the human being component for some time now and then. This is applicable to the imaginable human beings staying in their residences permanently. In the case of unimaginable God, He may leave the human being component now and then without actually leaving it even for a second! The Omnipotence of God allows this and this point can be applied to the above example of Jesus also. Shri Ajay believed My statement and was thinking that God Datta exists in Me only whenever I preach the spiritual knowledge. After some time, he visited Swami Shivaananda Maharaj along with Me. Swami ji looked at Ajay and told (before Ajay speaks anything) “If you think that Datta leaves your Swami now and then, you are slipping since Datta stays in Swami all the time”. Ajay thought that I spoke a lie like that in order to test his faith, which is also true. I spoke lie and at the same time I didn’t speak lie since the unimaginable God leaves Me now and then while staying always in Me simultaneously and there is no contradiction in this due to the omnipotence of God. These doubts don’t matter much since God is always available in human incarnation since He does not leave it at any time even though He leaves the human incarnation now and then. Both these points are simultaneously true due to the omnipotence of God. Availability of God in human incarnation on requirement while preaching or while doing miracles is sufficient for us to give right direction in spiritual effort and to protect our faith in God.
19. Question on Possesion by vedic ghost.
Shri Anil aked: Padanamaskaram Swami,You narrated the case of sister of Your grandmother possessed with a vedic ghost. Why such things happen? Is it harm the person in to which it enters?
Swami replied: The proof of such miraculous incidents establishes the existence of unimaginable domain by which the existence of unimaginable God can be easily established. This is the primary and fundamental concept of this entire incident. Damage of the health of a person possessed by ghost is always not a rule. It depends upon the cycle of deeds and fruits. This is again side track of the main issue. Main issue is that unimaginable God exists as the source of such unimaginable events.
20. The memory of the previous birth appears in some soul only...
Shri Anil aked: "The mother of Krishna was telling the story of Rama to Krishna so that Krishna can enter into sleep. When the story came up to the point that Ravana stole Sita, immediately Krishna awoke, crying, asking Lakshmana to give the bow for fight ". In this event, whether soul component in Krishna reacted this way?
Swami replied: Some times, some soul-component of a human being remembers the incidents of previous birth and this concept is established in the world through several examples and based on this the department of para-psychology was also evolved. The memory of incident of previous birth happens sometimes in some souls due to the will of God so that we can believe that the soul takes rebirth in this world. You can limit this incident to the human soul itself that takes rebirth again. Here, God is also associated with human soul of Rama and Krishna. Every soul does not remember all the previous lives, in case of which, every soul taking birth is loaded with such huge information of previous births so that every soul taking rebirth must be mad. The memory of the previous birth appears in some soul only due to the will of unimaginable God and this also can be taken as miraculous event to accept the existence of unimaginable God as the source of miraculous events. We give importance to this memory since it is not only related to the soul but also related to God associated with the soul in both births.
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