Shri Datta Swami

Posted on: 22 Nov 2020


In the state of pure awareness, who is the subject, which enjoys peace, which is the object?

[Śrī Anil asked: Swāmi, in the discourse given by You on September 26, 2020, it is mentioned, “In the second chapter of the Gītā, You find the description of Ātman and that description applies to both the thoughtless pure awareness as well as the inert energy since they both have a lot of similar characteristics. Both do not have the sense of doer-ship (kartṛtva) or enjoyer-ship (bhoktṛtva).”

If in the thoughtless pure awareness the enjoyership is not there, then how is the soul said to enjoy peace in the thoughtless pure-awareness state? Is it that in the thoughtless pure-awareness state, the ‘I’-thought is not present? Who is the experiencer of the pure awareness state if the I-thought is not present? The subject as ‘I’ and the object as peace should be present there to give the experience of peace. If we consider peace as the object, who is the subject experiencing the peace?

Swāmi replied: In that discourse, I had said that thoughtless awareness means that all thoughts are absent except the one thought of self-identification, which is the ‘I’-thought. Here, ‘I’ is both the subject as well as the object and it is simply called self-awareness. Peace means the absence of all thoughts other than ‘I’. Hence, peace only means the remaining ‘I’. ‘I’ is the object of the ‘I’-subject itself, which means that peace is the object of the ‘I’-subject.