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 Posted on 06 Jan 2007. Share

God, Miracles and Atheism

O Learned and Devoted Servants of God,

[Smt. Shrutakirti (Hyderabad) revealed her divine experience like this. “On 24-12-2006, I slept with some worry and I got a divine dream in which, Swami walked into my house. He was radiating bright light of thousand Suns. Every footprint of Him was shining with pure golden color. Swami consoled me and preached the divine knowledge. At the end, Swami told that He is giving a proof for the reality of His entrance into the dream. Then Swami told that if I verify the calendar of 2007, the Star on 21st May is Punarvasu. This statement was repeated three times by Swami, who disappeared. I awoke in the early morning and told about the dream to my husband. We did not yet purchase the New Year calendar. My husband rushed to the neighbor and brought the calendar to verify the truth. We were extremely surprised to see the name of Punarvasu Star on that day. Even the composer of the calendar cannot say this. I immediately phoned to Swami and told this. Swami told, “Any proof in the dream will be treated as the dream only and cannot be realized as truth in this world on awakening. Some days back, I told you that I am coming to your house on a particular day. On that day, there was profuse scent of lotus flowers in your house, which was absent outside the house simultaneously in every direction. That was a proof for My entry into your house in the awakened state. If I exhibit the same scent in your dream, it is not a real proof because it becomes a part of the dream and will be treated unreal along with the unreal dream.” I phoned to all our devotees immediately and told about this experience.]

Swami spoke: If the human incarnation materializes matter, you say that it is the trick of magic. If the Lord gives Divine visions, you will say that it is the illusion of the eye. You know that Smt. Bharati saw the Divine vision of Lord Datta. She put her finger in the bright radiating wheel revolving on My finger to test the possibility of illusion of the eye. You know that she immediately fell down and was unconscious for a long time. You know that the Doctor also stated that she got heart shock and her finger was stiff for three days and the Doctor stated that her body was shocked by the attack of high voltage electricity. In spite of all this, doubts still click in your hearts. Now, analyze this small proof in the dream. Though it is small it is most perfect from all angles. You know that Shrutakirti is very innocent and ignorant. How can she tell this even in the awakened state? Perhaps some mathematical genius may tell this after doing some calculations and such calculations are impossible in the state of dream. Miracles cannot satisfy atheists, who are always ready with alternative interpretations. But what sort of interpretation they can give for this? Of course, one should doubt everything and everybody and should analyze intensively to find out the truth. There should be a full stop for analysis also. Miracle is the yardstick of ignorant people to measure the Divinity of the Lord. I stayed in the house of Smt. Bhavani for two years. She was always asking Me to tell the statement existing in her mind at that time. That was her yardstick to measure My Divinity! I told her that even an evil person who has mastered a type of black magic called Karnapishachi could reveal the statement. But she was insisting Me for that on every day. One day, I told her that I would tell the statement in her mind provided that she will not insist Me again on that. She agreed and I revealed the secret statement in her mind. She was very happy. But next day she asked again. She thought that I might have told the previous statement by coincidence. Suddenly her third son came down from the first floor shouting at her for such foolish test. He was roaring since Kalabhairava possessed him. There is no end for the doubts of doubting Thomas.

Miracle indicates the existence of unimaginability. The unimaginability is God and its existence indicates the existence of God. The unimaginable power is the source of miracle. The source of that power is God. That power may or may not give the address of the God in a person who exhibits the miracle. But the miracle gives the existence of that power in that person. The power gives the indirect existence of God elsewhere. Therefore, miracle is an indirect proof of existence of God but not the direct proof of the address of God. The black magic is also power of God, which is given to Satan. The Satan and his followers are sufficient for atheists to prove the existence of superpower and thereby, existence of God indirectly. Let the atheist cross the miracle of a demon first. The theist should be above the level of these miracles and should try to achieve the Divine grace of God through spiritual knowledge, devotion and selfless service through sacrifice in the Divine mission of the Lord. If a Postgraduate student forgets the alphabets, what to do? Similar is the case of the theist who wants the miracle as a proof.

The theist requires the correct guidance by correct spiritual knowledge at that standard. Therefore, the divine knowledge alone can be the proof of the God as per the Veda. The exceptional quality of the divine knowledge (Prajnanam) is the spontaneous proof. You can experience the available highest quality of the knowledge and there is no need of any testing procedure for that. How are you selecting the Miss World? You are experiencing the spontaneous beauty directly and there is no need of instruments to test the beauty. You are selecting the topmost beauty in the available competition. If you say that some higher beauty may exist somewhere and some time in this world, the result of the competition can never be declared. Only ugly sadists may tell like that. The Gita says that the possessor of such topmost knowledge that can give the most perfect guidance to the souls is God Himself (Jnanitvatmaiva…). The importance of Divine knowledge is only due to the importance of correct guidance in the spiritual path. For this, the exhibition of miracle is not required. The exhibition of superpower through the miracle is needed only for the low-level atheists and to punish the low-level devils. When a Police Officer is invited to address the college, he goes in normal civil dress. When he has to deal with criminals, he will be in the Police uniform. Even there, he will send his subordinates in the uniform to deal with the criminals. But he will not send his subordinates in uniform to address the college. Similarly, God comes to preach the Divine knowledge and sends His subordinates to exhibit miracles. Since majority is in the lower strata, the miracles have to be exhibited widely. Hence, God gives the Superpowers even to devils. The miracles include even the miraculous experiences in the life of any one, which prove the existence of unimaginable God. Miracles and knowledge are the two requirements of people here in lower and higher levels respectively. Generally, God meets directly the requirement of higher level. The liberated souls who are the servants of God generally meet the requirement of lower level.

Answers to Questions in Atheistic Conference

[To day, atheists have met in a conference in this city and talked, as they like. I can answer every point raised by them provided they are not rigid conservatives of atheism and have open mind to accept the truth.]

Atheist: There are 33 Crores of deities in India but poor people are suffering.

Swami: There are several teachers in a school who teach classes equally. Why are the students not of equal standard? The cloud rains the same water drops. Why one drop fallen in the pearl shell becomes pearl and another drop becomes mud fallen in mud pond? The creator is equal to all but the creation has differences by its own nature of merits and defects. Are there no differences in the people in foreign countries where there is only one God? The 33 Crores of water drops (deities) have the same content of water (God). Due to the association of different materials, some drops became pearls and some became mud. The difference in the deities is due to the superimposed multi-nature of human beings. You have indirectly indicated the inevitable differences in the nature.

Atheist: Religious exploitations have led into misery of poor people. Why there should be golden jewels on the statue in the temple when poor people are suffering?

Swami: I agree that there is some religious exploitation done by selfish priests. But these exploitations are not of such magnitude to cause poverty of some people. The politicians and rich people are responsible for the poverty of some people. Even the terrorists are attacking such rich people only but not the priests. You are diverting the main issue to the wrong direction of a minor negligible issue. Your main issue is negation of the existence of God. It is a path in philosophy and hence, Vidyaranya gave a place to atheism, proposed by Charvaka. But now, you are trying to get the support of poor people by such diversion. Now, you are no more a philosopher and you are now a politician. Actually, you are harming the poor people who live peacefully with pure devotion on God. Their devotion is excellent and God is giving them the peace and lot of happiness. The rich people are not blessed with such peace and bliss due to their impure devotion. Money is not the single criterion of life. The religion is doing social service along with devotion to God so that the suffering people get the blessings from God. Take a patient of Cancer or AIDS. Your social service cannot change his worry. Only the concept of spiritual knowledge and devotion can console him completely. Sometimes, the grace of God may give even a permanent cure. The society is peaceful to a large extent based on the belief on God and fear for hell. Now, if you remove these concepts, the society will end in chaos. Thus, you are finally turning into anti-social element. If atheism spreads, the corruption, killing each other etc., will go to the climax. All the rich people will kill all the poor people and perhaps you want to remove the poverty in that way! The rich people and the Politicians are controlled to a large extent due to belief on God and hell only. You want to remove that also and support fully the rich people! How can you tell that hell does not exist? I could not show the hell to you but could you show the absence of hell by taking Me to the end of this space? In the case of equal probability, it is better to be careful believing the hell.

You have criticized about the golden jewels on the statue in the temple. The statue is a representative model of God to give a strong impression in the minds of ignorant people. The concept of God has several sociological uses like giving confidence, peace, happiness, control of sin etc. God is poor man’s heaven, which cannot be purchased by rich people. You are criticizing the material used in the model, which is building-up such most important concept. A villager says that the material used in building-up the experimental models conveying the scientific concept is a waste, which can be used to feed poor! Why do not you criticize the heavy jewelry of rich ladies in highly expensive function, which have no representation of any useful good concept? Why have you conducted your conference in highly expensive five Star Hotel?

Atheist: The spiritual knowledge is having no reason and perception. Hence, we do not believe in it.

Swami: There are several things, which are beyond reason but their existence is experienced through inference. This is accepted even in science due to inefficiency of measuring techniques (refer to Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle). Work is a form of inert energy, which is neither energy nor the machine and nor the motion. But it is inferred by the final effect. The limit of space is beyond even imagination and reason. The life is from food (matter) and matter is from energy. Energy has no cause. Do you not believe the existence of energy, which has no cause? A boy loves a girl even though she is totally rejecting him. This is a factual case even though the reason does not exist in it. If love is reason, the reason of such love is absent and the question returns to the original state. Again, the love is abstract, which is invisible but inferred from the above case. All these points are created by God to give the information about Himself that He is unimaginable and His existence is only inferred through the experience. This does not mean that space, love, work (awareness) are God. These indicate God by giving the indirect information about God.

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