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Spiritual discussion of Shri G. Lakshman with Swami. (Shri G Lakshman came to Hyderabad and had a spiritual discussion with Swami, which is presented below:-)
Shri Lakshman spoke:- What do you think about the association of miracles with preaching the spiritual knowledge?
Swami replied:- Miracles are only basic steps of spiritual knowledge, in which an atheist is converted in to theist. After this step, miracles have no significance in the spiritual path since a theist is that person, who accepts the existence of God with unimaginable power (God accepted may be the ...
Ahamtaasuuye vinaa vishleshanam tyaajye dvaitaadvaite cha tasya satya premaiva paramakaaranam bhavati.
[The main problem in identifying the human incarnation is ego based jealousy towards co-human beings due to repulsion between common media, which is especially becoming prominent in accepting a co-human being to be the highest God. The undisturbed characteristics of a human medium like hunger, thirst, sex, sleep, illness etc., influence our mind in the opposite direction...
Upamatasaamyamsarvamatasaamyasyapratibimbameva.
Bhedovirodhaivadrushyate.
[Opponent (Puurva Pakshii): -You cannot unify the religions of the world since each religion has concepts resulting in contradicting the concepts of other religions, especially Hinduism, which is alone perfectly correct.
Theorist (Siddhantii):- The concepts of all the religions in the world may be different, but, not contradicting each other. Difference is not contradiction. The syllabus of LKG class is different from the syllabus of PG class, but, both are not contradicting each other...
Pratiphalaakaamkshaarahita kevala Bhagavat preeti maargaamshaah
Sadaa smaraneeyaah saadhana ruupaah.
The climax devotees wanted to see God in order to serve Him with whatever they have. Service to God gives bliss to a devotee. Service is sacrifice of physical energy called as ‘Karma Samnyaasa’, which alone is confined to saints (Samnyaasins). Sacrifice of fruit of work or Karmaphalatyaaga is meant for all house-holders in addition to Karmasamnyaasa. These two constitute practical devotion or Karma Yoga as emphasised in the Gita again and again. Even service and sacrifice to true devotees pleases God since the second address of God is a true devotee as per the Narada Bhakti Sutra...
Trisiddhaantah naraavataare eva na sarvajeeveshu. Anuhyashakteh yugapadeva sthitih jeevaanaam asuuyaahantayaa.
[The relationship between God and ordinary soul (awareness) is not the subject of three divine preachers (Shankara, Ramanuja and Madhva). It is taken in this wrong sense. The relationship between God and human soul in human incarnation is the subject of these three preachers. The subject is about the electrified wire and not about ordinary...
Itihaasairniruupyate vartamaanadrushyashravyopakaranaih pratyakshiikriyate. Madamaatsaryaprakrutih pradhaanahetuh. Naraah mishramaah naraavataarasya sthitih klishtaa.
[The human incarnations appeared all over the world, which result by total merge of unimaginable God with a devoted and selected human being- component. These incarnations have done plenty of miracles and the basis of perceived miracles...
9) Anuuhyashakteranekatvaat sarvashaktimat naraavataarena
Bhuumim praveshtum shaknoti taduchitameva vaatsalyaat.
[Observation of a miracle in this world proves one type of unimaginable power. There are several types of miracles proving that there are several types of unimaginable powers (Paraasya shaktirvividhaiva — Veda). Since the unimaginable power is unimaginable God (as said by us), you shall not say that several types of unimaginable Gods result...
8) Bahusatphalaanaam drushaa tena vibhuutayah
Pradarshitaah natvahamkaaridaityavat.
[Expression of miracles is very important aspect of spiritual knowledge. God exhibits miracles not for projecting Himself as omniscient and omnipotent. Such intention exists with egoistic human beings called as demons. Their single motive is to project themselves through miracles and expect all the people to worship them...
The arguments raised by scientists have been answered as given below:-
i) When a miracle is observed, how can you draw the conclusion about unimaginable God from it?
Reply:- When you also observe a miracle, you are also saying that the cause of the miracle is inexplicable or unimaginable. We also say the same. Such unimaginable cause is called by us as unimaginable God. You need not doubt that the cause of the miracle is some unimaginable phenomenon or power and is not the source of unimaginable power to be called as unimaginable God. Any number of unimaginable items...
3) Vijnaanepyanishchitattvasutraat anoohyamapi sadeva.
[Unimaginable God is undetectable by our human brains. ‘Undetectable’ does not mean that it does not exist. The simultaneous position and momentum of electron are undetectable by the most sophisticated electron microscope. When this instrument is used, the focussed beam attacks the electron and its position is disturbed. Hence, this microscope is unable...
Ajnaataparidhiraakaashasyaasti Brahmaviditah yadanantaram nohyamaparimaanam syaadeva vijnaanamaunam naastikajalpah.
[Science discussed a lot about the boundary of space and beyond it. This boundary is unreachable for any human being and hence, is called as infinite. Unreachable need not be infinite. The finite space also can be unreachable since very very long finite space is also unreachable. Since space is creation of God, its boundary must be known to omniscient God...
1) Kim mulamasya? Idam vijneyamatraakaashah purobhutam yadvinaa naanyat yannaasat na dravyaapekshitam vyatyayena vaachyam sukshmashaktiraakaasho hi.
[What is the root cause of this world? --- Before getting answer for this, we must know that space is the first of five elements (the five components) of this world. Without space, no other element can appear or exist. Hence, space is the fundamental item of this world. It is subtle energy. It is non-existent before its generation, existent after generation and non-existent after dissolution. No product is existent in the cause before its generation. Pot does not exist in its cause (lump of mud) before its generation. The capability of generating the product
1) Jagatyatra chakshurdrushaam sannikarshaat,
Anuhyakriyaanaam anuhyam hi mulam,
Tadaakaashasimnah param dandadaayi,
Parabrahma vastvasti nunam tvanuhyam.
In this world itself, unimaginable events called as miracles are seen by naked eyes and hence, there must be the source of these miracles, which is called as unimaginable God. Therefore, the unimaginable God has perception-authority, which is the basis for all authorities. Unimaginable means beyond imagination or logical analysis. Anything beyond space is unimaginable because any item beyond space ...
Shri Phani asked: Why shall not we take the cosmic energy as the original basis that creates, rules and destroys world as the ultimate God?
Swami replied: In fact, it is taken so by the science, which speaks that this inert cosmic energy is the fundamental cause and basis of creation of world, which can dissolve also in it. By this, the creation, ruling and destruction of world, told as the inherent associated characteristics (not revealing the unimaginable nature of God) of God apply to the basic root cause-material...
Shri Anil asked:- Can you explain the mixed domain with more clarity?
Swami replied:- The mixed domain is a mixture of both imaginable and unimaginable powers and therefore unless you understand clearly the imaginable and unimaginable domains, you cannot achieve your aim. All these domains are created by God only. The imaginable domain is starting with the creation of the imaginable energy from unimaginable God. This process of generation of imaginable from unimaginable...
Shri Anil asked: “Swami! With reference to your answer to the question of Smt. Devi, kindly clarify the concept with more clarity about the unimaginable and imaginable domains coexisting in the case of these supernatural worlds of supernatural energetic beings”.
Swami replied: There are two clearly different domains, which are unimaginable creator and imaginable creation. Just for the convenience of explanation in terms of imaginable logic, I may use words like unimaginable nature or unimaginable power or unimaginable awareness or unimaginable process etc. You must always remember that all these terms having ‘unimaginable’...
Shri Anil asked: 1) “You told that Charvaka (atheist) told that awareness is generated from food only and this point being true shall be accepted even if the speaker is an atheist. If this point is true, is it also told in the scripture?
Swami replied: This truth is clearly told in the scripture that (relative) awareness is generated from food (Annat purushah). Purusha means the awareness or soul, which lies in the body (puri shete). This awareness is called as the relative awareness treated as one of the items of creation (kshetra) by the Gita (Chatanaa dhrutih). This awareness is the specific work form of inert energy generated in a specific nervous system while functioning. This awareness should not be confused with the unimaginable awareness...
Smt. Devi (w/o. Dr. Nikhil) asked: You told that the upper and Lower worlds are to be treated as upper and lower levels of devotion to God and should not be treated as the physical places separated by physical distance. But, simultaneously, you say that the upper and lower worlds exist in space geographically, which can’t be seen by us due to the God’s will acting as unimaginable barrier. How to co-relate both these two concepts?
Swami Replied: Coimbatore-city in which you presently reside is called as the Manchester-city of India. Manchester-city exists in the world outside India. The statement means that like the Manchester-city in the world, Coimbatore-city is in India. Coimbatore doesn’t contradict the geographical existence of Manchester outside the India. This human body called as Pindaanda is a representative mini model...
Ms. Shyama Kamala Lochana asked: 1) While answering the question of Vena Datta, You told that the human incarnation is like sugar dissolved in water and the sweetness of water is due to sugar only. This means that God-component and human being-component are always separate in the finest level, which means that dualism is ultimately correct and not the monism. Can You explain this point?
Swami replied: I have taken the solution of sugar dissolved in water as a simile to express the dualism in monism in view of certain devotees, who do not like perfect monism in the ultimate level due to some extent of jealousy in them towards co-human beings. This is dualism in monism taking the example of human incarnation in view of devotees having some jealousy...
Shri Veena Datta asked: Please explain the God and souls in three states (Refer Dr. Nikhil’s question).
Swami replied: The unimaginable God is always in one state and there is no effect of any state on Him. He is always omniscient observing the entire creation. To be omniscient He need not be omnipresent. Without being omnipresent, He can be omniscient due to His omnipotence. If one requires to be omnipresent to become omniscient, such a seer is bound by logic. God is beyond logic...
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